Exactly. Revivez le Grand Prix de Bahreïn avec l’émission On Board de Canal + Sport, pour revoir tous les moments forts de la course en caméra embarquée. Either way it makes them look bad. None of this will appease the critics, as confidentiality clauses never do. In 2021 a standardised fuel system will be introduced, further restricting what teams can do in this area. In 2021 a standardised fuel system will be introduced, further restricting what teams can do in this area. Pursuant to Article 14 of the Company’s Articles of Association, the Board of Directors –composed of 9 directors, including both executive and non-executive – is responsible for the management and strategic direction of the Group. Patrick (@paeschli) 2nd March 2020, 15:09. The technical regulations (19.4) specifically state “The only fuel permitted is petrol”. While there is no indication Ferrari’s system was illegal”. Ferrari’s PU was confiscated and run on a bench and it was proven. FIA can say that the engine is legal and they are not obliged to give out the detail to others. The fact that they reached a settlement, just spells ‘Shady deal’. Dieter-I love everything about this, especially the parable you chose to define it. (If it had been noted in practise, a penalty would still have been issued, but disqualifying someone from free practise is pointless). But certainly we are down on speed compared to other competitors and I think that’s affected by one way from the drag, the other certainly from the reliability programme we have in place.”. it did not ha[pen. Sports governing bodies, on the other hand, have a strictly defined area of influence. @petebaldwin the nationalistic card doesn’t really seem to apply here, because there are articles in a wide range of other European countries, such as in France and Germany, that have questioned why there has been such secrecy over this deal and whether Ferrari have been up to something. Where was all that fuel going? I actually think the same. Unfortunately, no one in the FIA or Ferrari will actually rat out on the details of this deal. The comment section section also looks to be running on boiling hot intercooler fluid. I’ve not checked enough of the datasheet to see if that’s doable though. Ferrari Formula 1 team, driven by Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz. by cooling it). Richard C (@rich156) 2nd March 2020, 23:02, Will be interesting to note if the grape juice smell is gone this year. Or have you deemed them illegal purely based on the team that came up with them? Have you seen the final documents between Ferrari and the FIA that bring this matter to conclusion. He was also a board member and Vice President of Banca Popolare dell’Emilia Romagna in Modena from 2002 to 2011 and from 2011 to 2014 respectively. But like I said, too big for F1 to be outwardly convicted of cheating so it had to be done this way. Here we are onboard with the ferrari f1 for a virtual lap of monaco GP! ColdFly (@coldfly) 2nd March 2020, 14:41. My bet, they found a way to store fuel at pressure in the fuel delivery system. Of course there may also be implications for this year’s championship. Ferrari SF1000 dettaglio dei nuovi barge board e del fondo con il labbro nel bordo d'entrata. Since the mguk has been maxed out at 120kW for every manufacturer since 2015, that extra power could only come from the ICE which requires more efficiency (legal) or more fuel flow(illegal). Cue currently serves as Apple Inc.’s Senior Vice President of Internet Software and Services. It has at least offered a softer option than my cynical default that Ferrari were cheating. That part of this article gives me a bit of difficulty. I too don’t really believe that any technology to circumvent such sensors and thus use more fuel has much legal innovative uses in the automotive world (and illegal, outside sports, diesel gate like, is unlikely if car owners can see what fuel they are putting in!). Completely agree, it would be stupid for any team to discover a loophole that provides a significant gain and not take advantage of it as long it is legal. VIDEO F1, un giro al Mugello on-board della Ferrari: tutti i segreti del circuito in vista della gara. Of course because you can’t have teams or suppliers innovating or been clever in the modern era can you. This is what makes me suspicious. Sensible comment. If I did something that is probably illegal but they can’t deem it illegal, then why I need to settle? Look at Button with the blown diffuser? Shell just too an important player to have withdraw or be kicked out. I’ve seen so many comments like this by people saying fuel burning is allowed that I have to say something. Not that I am defending Ferrari, but it appears they did come up with a novel way to get additional fuel into the engine. Im guessing/hoping they are not ‘sandbagging’ which implies, turning the engine down to hide true speed, they are just not turning the wick up so they can get miles done. He joined Apple in 1989 and oversees Apple’s industry-leading content stores including the iTunes Store, the App Store and the iBooks Store, as well as Apple Pay, Siri, Maps, iAd, the iCloud services, and Apple’s productivity and creativity apps. No cheating but doesn’t bode well for them this season. It’s a morally grey area, but as with corporate taxes and creative ways of paying less, this should not be regarded as cheating. (I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Mattia’s talking about the effects of 2020 developments on 2021, and this may have been Ferrari’s incentive to settle. Ms. Bellettini graduated in Business Administration with focus on Finance at Bocconi University, Italy. Ok, maybe not outright cheating, but most certainly not playing by the rules. So, “for the greater good” Ferrari were given this back door to escape public punishment and embarrassment. Ferrari gives Charles Leclerc his winning F1 car Autoblog - Reuters • 5d. Using oil to burn in the cylinders and generate power is not allowed, it is not done openly as it is against the rules. Otherwise, we have no reasonable option but to assume guilt. The addition of rules to the Technical Regulations (not yet gazetted) suggests there was some trickery involved. Tech secrets have nothing do with it. Only cheating when the loophole closes, then it’s time to find another. It could be that Ferrari’s undisclosed system also doesn’t breach any rules, but if it didn’t why didn’t the FIA say “all above board” and why “the settlement”? Since no protest was made and the courts never received an application, this is about as precise a release as the FIA could make. A little software manipulation and you can hold the pressure in the lines back until you need it. Also, “a settlement” could mean the FIA paid Ferrari, although I don’t think that was the case, or that maybe there was a “two-way” exchange of money. Because Ferrari’s interest in resolving this could plausibly be in the future, rather than present or past. If something like that is the explanation, it seems odd not to come out and say so directly. If you’re innocent, why do you need a sealed settlement? Mercedes led Friday practice – but are Red Bull still the team to beat? I suppose if the use is shady or illegal, keepin/claiming it to be a secret is better than a patent would be. Depending on where it is located in the system, it could indicate variations due to elasticity in the hardware or in the fuel itself. (Not quite the same, but the footballer Omer Riza has just had a final ruling on a case dating back to 2008 which went all the way to the ECHR.). The RPM of the Ferrari ICE doesn’t change between race mode and qualy mode which only adds more ambiguity to the mystery. None of that was considered mitigation for the offence by the FIA. A settlement is what people agree instead of having a lengthy fight. But maybe they reached a settlement so Ferrari can avoid punishment and at the same time let FIA know on how they did the cheating thus can create a rule to prevent this from happening again. This is different that RB flexi wing where they only needed to pass the test. The main problem I have is that if Ferrari exploited a loophole in the rules then totally fair play, and quite right to keep the technology secret, but this whole story is pure speculation and guessing at what Ferrari did or didn’t do and unfortunately non Ferrari fans struggle to see past the fact they had to make an agreement and so looks guilty and Ferrari fans can’t accept the reasons why people would assume this. Mr. Duca has previously served as Chairman of the Board of Statutory Auditors of Enel S.p.A. from April 2010 until May 2019, Chairman of the Board of Directors of Orizzonte SGR S.p.A. from 2008 until 2016, Chairman of the Board of Statutory Auditors of Exor S.p.A. until May 2015, Chairman of the Board of Statutory Auditors and effective auditor of GTech until April 2015, member of the Board of ASTM S.p.A. and Chairman of the Audit Committee of ASTM S.p.A. from 2010 until 2013, Chairman of the Board of Statutory Auditors of Tosetti Value SIM and an independent director of Sella Gestione SGR until April 2010. It would have also boosted Ferraris image and countered the cheating accussations. She was appointed Deputy General Manager of Christian Dior Couture in 2008 and in September 2013 Deputy General Manager of Louis Vuitton Malletier. You can leave things as they are & continue the uncertainty & constant accusations or you can do what was done & reach an agreement to put a stop to what was been done (If it’s something the FIA didn’t like) which will in the long term close the matter. See the Comment Policy and FAQ for more.If the person you're replying to is a registered user you can notify them of your reply using '@username'. Mal Ross (@malross) 2nd March 2020, 23:00. Renault springs to mind. I am guessing that some performance metrics are cleared from memory so they can’t be reviewed after the race. It does seem as though it has had a tangible effect on their performance though. Instead of praise, you get trolls and conspiracy theorists!! Do you have data to support your accusations or are you merely expressing an opinion? Hey I get that it is cool that innovators can come to with amazing stuff, and the driver is part of the team, and therefore some would say a win is a win and they did a better job. “My secret is that I enjoy pushing wheelbarrows and someone’s been paying me to bring them this much hay every day for 45 years” would be a bit of a letdown after starting so dramatically ;). It got me thinking whether “fuel” classifies as a “device”, “system” or “procedure”. But really? L'ÉQUIPE formule 1 auto-moto formule 1 Mr Keswick is a director of Dairy Farm, Hongkong Land, Jardine Strategic and Mandarin Oriental. If there is insufficient evidence to proceed to the FIA Courts about this, the FIA isn’t even allowed to give general information about the nature of the systems involved beyond the bare minimum (since this didn’t come from a team protest – had it done so, any information in the team protest itself that wasn’t IP could be, and some version usually is, shared). If they did find something illegal or in a grey area of the rules they could have said so. It is only to do with a governing body and a team coming to any kind of a private settlement, and not coming out to declare something completely legal. If that’s the case then the issue could be dragged through the courts for years – literally. But the one question I would love to ask the FIA is, “At any point during an official race of the FIA Formula One World Championship of 2019, did the Ferrari SF90 burn more than the allowed 100kg/hr in combustible fuel?”. Even if they were cheating, which we dont know for sure, if I were the FIA Id let them do it cause nobody is going to get close to Mercedes. The FIA has no incentive not to clear a team in the same way that it has cleared others in such circumstances. He also serves as member of the board of Nedcommunity association since May 2019 and Chairman of the board of auditors of the Fondazione per la Scuola of Compagnia di San Paolo and ISPI (Institute for the Study of International Politics), as well as a member of the board of auditors of the Intesa San Paolo Foundation Onlus. The FIA believe Ferrari have broken the rules, Ferrari don’t. If not then i suggest that you preface your comments as being mere speculation. Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer*, Monitoring Violations of the Code of Conduct, To Report a Violation of the Code of Conduct. The holy grail of road engines is one which can produce huge power or amazing economy on demand. If they release the info, other teams may pick up the baton, so to speak, and find ways to exploit the idea this season as well. Being extremely clever with a loophole is to be commended IMO, and protecting your ingenuity is a reasonable step. The second fuel flow meter readings are not available to the teams, they are only available to the FIA. The only thing that puzzles me is why the statement the FIA issued wasn’t explicit about the fact Ferrari had done nothing wrong. Colin Chapman’s dual chassis ground effects car, within the “rules” then banned. The article and none so far that I’ve tried to find address any engineering questions. NOOOOO, “The FIA announces that, after thorough technical investigations, it has concluded its analysis of the operation of the Scuderia Ferrari Formula 1 power unit and reached a settlement with the team”. There’s a big difference between the Mercedes DAS system and Ferrari’s undisclosed system, in that we all have a general idea on what the DAS system does, I believe there’s even Youtube footage showing it in operation, and that it doesn’t appear to breach any current rules. He also serves as Chairman of the Giovanni Agnelli Foundation. Doesnt take a conspiracy theorist to come to that conclussion. Stephen Crowsen (@drycrust) 2nd March 2020, 23:30. Since 2017, he has been on the board of the Chanel Fondation, a philanthropic organization focused on women and girls. ColdFly (@coldfly) 2nd March 2020, 16:19. Le recrutement de Carlos Sainz a contribué à remonter le moral de la Scuderia Ferrari, selon Charles Leclerc. Pubblicato il 02 Dicembre 2014 ore 19:00. If Ferrari did not break the letter of any rules, its IP cannot be shared. The FIA did not have enough information to be sure of winning the case, but did have enough to attempt one. In the contrary, it fuels the rumors that they knew something was up, but couldnt prove it definitively! 4, I-41053 Maranello (MO), Italy, registered with the Dutch trade register under number 64060977 No one willing gives up an advantage in exchange for less, that’s pretty much what is being claimed here. they can accuse me all they want and I wouldn’t care. There is a regulation of the rate that you use the fuel, and they were exceeding this, thus generating more HP. Ms. Bellettini is a member of the Kering Group Executive Committee and a non-voting member of Kering Board of Directors (France) since 2013. Ferrari wished to avoid the loss of time associated with taking the case to the FIA Courts and/or the risk of losing said case. If there was no chance of getting punished why tell anyone? You took the words right out of my mouth. Ferrari Official Ferrari N.V. - Holding company - A company under Dutch law, having its official seat in Amsterdam, the Netherlands and its corporate address at Via Abetone Inferiore No. No restrictions on cabling, so according to the rules no breach, but pure cheating. Actually, they could have just given a statement about Ferrari being guilty or not. She has been a member of the Board of Directors of Fiat Industrial and CIR and currently serves on the Board of Ferrari, Amplifon and Endesa S.A. Mrs. Grieco is also Deputy Chair and a member of the steering committee of Assonime and is a member of the Board of Directors of Bocconi University. But hey, it’s just an observation. @rekibsn, Esteban Ocon was disqualified from the 2018 US Grand Prix because of a single fuel mass flow blip, that lasted less than a lap due to recalibration attempts. For this to to fit it means that Ferrari likely weren’t just “cleverly exploiting a loophole” as teams often do, in this case they had found a way to break the rules without being caught. There is a sense of unease and disquiet that cuts across multiple national boarders – suggesting that this is somehow about “UK fans” kicking up a fuss doesn’t really hold water when you see that questions are being raised across a wide range of nations and across a broad sector of the fan base. …would rather their antics NOT be spread in detail…. Nelson Piquet and “Witness X” in the 2008 Singapore crash ballet, which also demonstrates that the FIA is not obliged to reveal an immunised source). I guess I’m more about the driver having more effect than relying on a trick fuel flow meter to then get the accolades and take home the trophies. Its called formula one for a reason, there is a formula the teams adhere to and its been like that from the beginning. But the report stays confidential due to tech secrets. I’m inclined to believe that not only did the FIA not find a breach itself, but if Ferrari knew of one, they didn’t directly tell the FIA what it was (at most, they hinted at what it while stating directly how it could be stopped in future). John Elkann is Chairman of Giovanni Agnelli B.V.. Arthur (@aegges66) 2nd March 2020, 16:08. Ferrari’s incentive to do this rather than go to court, if it is innocent, would be to enhance its relationship with the FIA. Non of that happened and combined with the settlement and the drop of Ferrari performance at the end of last season its clear what they did was illegal. I am reminded of this explanation…. His first position with Ferrari dates back to 1965 working on the production of the Dino 206 Competizione racing car. Will they? :) Which does not state they cleared Ferrari of any foul play! F1 TV Pro: Live Onboard Cameras. That its a “settlement” doesn’t help either. Why the FIA didn’t do that? Unfortunately, this is where Dieter’s theory might (emphasis on might) run into trouble. From May 2014 to May 2020 she was the Chairperson of the Board of Directors of Enel, the Italian company with the highest market cap, world leader in the utilities sector and controlling shareholder of 15 listed companies worldwide. They don’t have to know how Ferrari does it to deem it illegal. I’ll take a slightly truncated F1 and a more driver vs driver series to none at all, any day. Like, if this is untraceable, then why the settlement? If the temperature it’s using is higher than the actual fuel temperature, there’ll be a discrepancy between measured and actual flow. And look how well the cheaters are doing now. John Elkann is Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of EXOR and Chairman of Stellantis N.V.. Elkann obtained a scientific baccalaureate from the Lycée Victor Duruy in Paris and graduated in Engineering from Politecnico, the Engineering University of Turin. After stints at Glaxo SmithKline in global Marketing and at Coty Beauty, as President of Coty Americas, he joined Chanel in 2006. What road relevance is there in burning intercooler fluids, but managing direct injection fuel systems …. Even in the act of shutting down the investigation, the FIA stands accused of a lack of transparency and accused of trying to hide the fact that the investigation was coming to a close – as if the investigation itself was now something that they did not want to admit had existed at all. Binotto stated on more than one occasion last year that they were the most tested team in the pitlane and that they had never been found to be running an illegal car. the mirrors on the “wings” were banned inmediatly and everybody could see it….while the rims were not banned… the das is not banned.. is like anything silver get a pass. Just a small clarification, I wasn’t suggesting cooling the fuel, but exploiting a small temperature difference between the temperature measurement point and the flow sensor. “We are not hiding so I think that’s our performance,” he said. This is easy to prove as the teams always make sound analysis in every GP of their rival PU’s and as a result they can simulate the power band of the ICE. @ Witan…Isn’t that what the FIA actually did? (@peartree) 2nd March 2020, 14:56.
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